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ffutures ([personal profile] ffutures) wrote2009-10-31 10:17 am

Brown v Nutt

Just watching the Prof. Nutt thing re cannabis etc. on the news; Gordon Brown really is staggeringly inept, isn't he...

All he really needed to do was say "thanks, we'll consider it the next time we look at this legislation" then forget about it for a few months. Or better yet, do something about it. But no, not a chance.

Roll on the next election...

[identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
It is quite staggering how Brown always manages to find a way to turn a hiccup into a crashing screaming disaster.

I suspect it might be a symptom of somebody trying to control everything, leading to losing a grip on it all.

Sad thing is I think if he could just be less of a control-freak, he'd probably be a very good prime minister.

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You see that's the trouble with learned advisory committees - they go away, study the evidence, and then advise you accordingly...

And, of course, when using terms like 'lethal' around doctors and scientists, who actually know what it means (although surely this should also be true of a PM?), they will point out to you when you get it wrong!

Prof Nutt really can run rings around Gordon Brown, can't he?

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You may be right, but I doubt it'll ever happen. And some of their current decisions, e.g. privatising everything, have been staggeringly inept.

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
;-)

Especially loved the bit where Nutt was explaining exactly why riding a horse was actually more dangerous than drugs. Some people really don't understand the idea of "risk" at all.
Edited 2009-10-31 13:11 (UTC)

[identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. They've managed to alienate just about everybody.

And then every week it seems they send Mandelsohn out to annoy some other group. Last week it was the post office workers. This week it was all internet users.

[identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Why roll on the next election?

The only alternatives are more of the same or worse. Brown ignored scientific evidence to prove he was tough on drugs. There is nothing in the history of Conservative policies post-Thatcher that indicates their stance is any different.

One might as well say roll on the eleven-mile asteroid.

Scientific Classification

[identity profile] avdhutaya.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I appreciate that Mr. Brown is a fish out of water, and from a 'scientific' perspective the comparative analysis put forward by Nutt may be comprehensable, but I'm just wondering exactly how much research was done into the sociological effects of more widespread consumption of these drugs if they were seen as more legitimate by recreational users due to their reclassification.

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I sincerely doubt that the effects are any worse than widespread disrespect for laws that people know full well are silly. You get a government that is talking rubbish, you don't take anything they say very seriously.

BTW, my job is in science - you won't get far here by disliking scientific evidence.
Edited 2009-10-31 20:20 (UTC)

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Who says the conservatives will win? I'm hoping for a a hung parliament with say the Greens holding the balance, that would seriously annoy a lot of politicians!

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But since I see from your user info that you appear to be a drive-by troll with a brand new account who has never posted, and is presumably here to comment-spam for our beloved leader, I doubt you care much.

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] avdhutaya.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, thanks for replying.

I strive to be scientific, but I'm not very mathematical, so it's hard to understand a lot of the hard and fast 'principles' involved.

There is an innate understanding of what is 'silly' as you put it, but where does that 'understanding' come from ?

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] avdhutaya.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
No, just looking for answers. I do enjoy fishing though, haven't done much lately.
I don't have any faith in the British Parliamentary system as it stands.
Would be interested to hear your views on Obama though.

Bye the way, from you photo I can see we both belong to the league of gentlemen whose head hair has migrated to their chins, in abundance. I'm still looking for some one who can give mine a decent trim.

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no opinions on Obama. It isn't my country, he seems better than Bush but that isn't saying much.

Re: Scientific Classification

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
From people noticing that they and others who they know to use drugs are not dropping dead in the streets, going insane, murdering their grannies, having three headed babies etc. in huge numbers.