Dr. Who speculation, massive spoilers!

[ffutures]

Cracking episode, especially the massed Cybermen hordes stamping in unison. A nice touch of Riverdance / Stomp / The Wrong Trousers.

Just because Rose says that she died at Torchwood, why is everyone assuming that she's the only Rose or that she was speaking of herself? We have multiple worlds meeting here, endless parallel possibilitities. I think that we're going to have an epic battle with a couple of Roses and her Dad, Captain Jack, two or three different Doctors. My other guess, from the trailer, is that the Daleks cloned her DNA (obtained in Dalek) and that the entire Dalek race descends from the DNA they stole from her. It's another Rose in the sarcophagus. And Jackie, Rose, and Rose's dad will end up as a family again, probably running Torchwood once the current lot have got their just deserts.

Or not, of course....

I think that there is a snowball's chance in hell that the Daleks will cooperate with the Cybermen - too many philosophical differences. The Daleks don't want to upgrade people, they just want to EXTERMINATE them.

Incidentally, did anyone else hear what's-her-face say that they'd shot down a "jaffa glider" or was that my ears playing tricks?

Lovely vibes of everything from The Initiative onwards in the Torchwood scenes. Anyone else say "spedoinkle!" when they did that big panning shot of the facility? Anyone else think that what's-her-face reminded them of Illona from Angel, or possibly the evil bureaucrat in Harry Potter book 5?

Comments

[armb.livejournal.com]

> did anyone else hear what's-her-face say that they'd shot down a "jaffa glider" or was that my ears playing tricks?

During the episode I thought "shot down a what? I missed that", but there was a mention in Doctor Who Confidential - I'd have to listen again to tell whether it was Jaffa, Jafaa, or Jafah.

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

If it is a Stargate reference I will be VERY pleased.

Jaffa?

[keith5by5.livejournal.com]

I thought so too, but would they be allowed to with copyright issues?

Captain Jack?

Oh god, a world of no. This isn't British panto season. Who next?

Mr. Humphreys?

[ggreig]

Incidentally, did anyone else hear what's-her-face say that they'd shot down a "jaffa glider" or was that my ears playing tricks?

I was wondering that; my best guess from watching both the episode and Confidential on-air was that it was a "Jatha sun-glider".

[jeriendhal.livejournal.com]

Bugger. There goes my SG-1/Torchwood crossover. ;p

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

I'll watch the repeat tonight with the subtitles switched on, see if that helps.

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

It was definitely sun-glider. Oh well...

[wpeters.livejournal.com]

I just watched it again. He calls it a 'Jathar Sun Glider'.

[ggreig]

It's close enough that I don't think it need stop people. It could be a model of glider we haven't seen before, and a slight consonantal shift in the name of the race is no big deal.

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

True - my original though on this was ages ago anyway, SG-1 assigned to investigate the mysterious Xmas events and figure out how the perfidious Brits shot the alien spaceship down. Or suckering Anubis into firing range, of course...

[doctor-toc.livejournal.com]

I don't think these Daleks have ever encountered Rose before. My current theory is that the Voidship was placed either during or just before the Time War as a back up in case to Time Lords wiped out the Daleks retroactively. Out in the Void, the ship would have been protected from any historical changes, ready to recreate the Daleks once the war was over.

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

Plausible, since they didn't appear to recognise her. We shall see...