Xmas episode

[ffutures]

Good...



We got to see the Tardis do a lot of things it's never done before, e.g. fly and buzz traffic.

Would two entirely different aliens pick on the idea of disguising their robots as santas and xmas trees in consecutive years?

There's something VERY wrong with the timeline for the last Xmas episode, Doomsday, this one, and Torchwood. I got the idea when Doomsday aired that it was set several years later.

Catherine Tate was excellent as the girl of the episode - looks like she won't be a companion.

Next season ad at the end had some aliens that looked like Sontarans and a Dalek right at the end.

Advert for the Sarah Jane show on at the new year makes it look interesting, another special effects extravaganza. Just hope they put some plot in there...



Now lets go watch last night's Torchwood, then see if the plot of the Xmas thing makes more sense if I watch it on a TV with a decent sound system and without my family yacking around me, and I can actually hear the dialogue properly...

Comments

[gonzo21.livejournal.com]

It was rather good wasn't it. Though it's going to take some doing for me to adapt to a Rose-less Who.

With regards timeline, I get the feeling they know there is something very wrong, but they're just going to paper over it with gags.

A black dalek. Wasn't the black dalek something special?

[armb.livejournal.com]

> Wasn't the black dalek something special?

In the past: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants#Dalek_Supreme
More recently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants#Cult_of_Skaro

[gonzo21.livejournal.com]

Ah, excellent. Thank you kindly.

[adrian-middle.livejournal.com]

Sadly I was travelling when Torchwood was on.

As for the timeline, I'm pretty sure the gap between the disappearance of Rose and her meeting with the Doctor at Dårlig Ulv Stranden was accurate. If episodes are roughly in synch with the real world, then Army of Ghosts happened a little over two months after any previous adventure, and therefore 2 months after it was broadcast in early July (ie. early September).

Doomsday doesn't have the Doctor hanging around on Earth before he searches for a way to communicate with Rose, and its safe to assume that the conception of Pete and Jackie's baby is probably an early even in the alt.universe. Jackie is 3 months pregnant, so that means early September + 3 months + a few weeks to get Jackie pregnant = late December.

They also explained that someone "took control" of the same Robot Santas from last year. The implication is that that someone was Torchwood, and that the Empress of Racnoss somehow infiltrated and appropriated the pilot fish for her own purposes.

As for Sontarans, those were Judoon (note the Rhino Horns next time you see the clip).

[ffutures.livejournal.com]

Don't know the Judnoon, but i bow to your superior knowledge.

Even after watching again I'm still not sure how robot Santas came to be used again - your theory is as good as any.

Still not convinced about the timeline - Torchwood explicitly exists after the Canary Wharf fiasco which was set before any of the current season, maybe they just meant that Torchwood London was destroyed, and had previously owned the company.

Torchwood, Second Torchwood, Torchwood and Empire.

[inamac.livejournal.com]

I'm working on the theory that the whole Torchwood thing is a riff on 'Foundation' - Torchwood London being the 'decoy'. This is largely because I like to believe that somewhere there is an efficent organisation taking forward the vision of Queen Victoria and dealing with alien artifacts and invasions.

But I'm probably wrong.

[adrian-middle.livejournal.com]

The takeover of the Robot Santas was explicitly stated on-screen, with Torchwood's responsibility being implicit.

I guess the Torchwood continuity *may* be stretched, but not by much. IIRC The pilot was set about 6 months after the Christmas Invasion (so June), Cyberwoman tells us that the Battle of Canary Wharf was "months ago" (so about August/September time), and They Keep Killing Suzie is set 3 months after the pilot (September).

It's also worth noting that Torchwood therefore can't happen in our universe, because maintenance works around the Millennium Fountain commenced in August and the fencing was still up in early December (and the fountain switched off).

[dungeoneer.livejournal.com]

There's something VERY wrong with the timeline for the last Xmas episode, Doomsday, this one, and Torchwood. I got the idea when Doomsday aired that it was set several years later.

The new series must have felt a bit left out that it didn't have its own version of the UNIT dating controversy or something. Always gotta keep up with the Joneses.