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Well, that Jossed pretty much every bit of post S2 Torchwood fanfic ever written...

Not much else to say really.

SPOILERS IN COMMENTS

Date: 2009-07-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
I can imagine Torchwood fandom probably feels like a bomb has been dropped on them.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm kind of glad that I was watching through binoculars from about ten miles away with several sheets of bullet proof glass between me and the fandom.

I mean I got to enjoy it as a brilliant five part series. And that was gut wrenching enough.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Yeah, I really liked it too. And I say that as somebody who hated the first 2 seasons of Torchwood. Be fascinated to see what the viewing figures are, because I think this torchwood this week had a much broader appeal. Hell, my parents both watched it. And enjoyed it.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonemagpie.livejournal.com
The viewing figures are impressive, AIUI:

Day One- 5.94 million
Day Two- 5.6 million
Day Three- 5.9 million
Day Four- 6.2 million

Those are the overnights and will rise when folks recording it etc are taken into account.

5.9 is about the same as Ashes To Ashes in the same slot. 6.2 is more than A2A gets.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
Yeah I'm reccing it to none Torchwood Doctor who type people. i mean it is just good telly.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Incidentally, I was very impressed by the ending of your fella in your icon there's story. That was powerful stuff.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
Oh so was I, I cried. Rather a lot. I mean I'd felt a deal of sympathy for him ever since the start of the series and I actually just felt more and more sorry for him as the series progressed. Partly to do with the actor I think he was just great. Really brilliant.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Yes, I'd hoped we'd get more back story on him. And when he got the gun I was desperately hoping he was going to bust Jack out of jail and together they were going to do something. But... then he went home, and kissed his children, and sent them upstairs. And I was thinking, well, maybe he's going to hijack the press conference and tell the truth.

But no.

And the bit crossing over to his assistant explaining how he was a good man, that was very well done too.

I wanted the PM to have a worse ending, for doing that to him.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
Yes, the PM was definitely the least sympathetic of the Spooks bunch also I could just tell that Frobisher had been chosen because he was the "middleman" the Civil Service rather than one of his fellow politicians.

I was glad, oh so glad, that he, sort of, got his comeupance.

It was a fantastic sequence I just couldn't quite believe that it was happening.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
And that pause before the final bullet just broke my heart.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
Oh I was already in floods but yes completely and it was bad because I really needed to take a minute to recover from that but I wasn't watching the type of telly that you can pause.

What is worse is that you know the day was saved in the end.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Yes, at least while I was watching it I was still thinking it was possible that the 456 really were going to abscond with 10% of the worlds children, but it was half in my mind that he was maybe about to kill his family for nothing.

Though honestly I think the scene with jacks daughter when she realised what Jack was going to do hit me even harder.

Date: 2009-07-10 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornyrose42.livejournal.com
That was dreadful as well. Really dreadful, but again, understandable. I suppose that has been a real theme through the mini series, how much is too many? How true is it that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? How much are we willing to sacrifice to save our own families, will we sacrifice our own families to save the world.

Date: 2009-07-11 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Yes, I liked that about it. It actually asked some serious questions. Like what would you do, if the choice was between giving up the children, and facing humanity being wiped out by a virus. Of course, you would give up the children. Which is probably why we had to get that scene of the PM condemning Frobishers kids.

Date: 2009-07-12 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vitruvian23.livejournal.com
I did have a bit of a problem, not with him planning that, but actually going through with it. No matter how rules-oriented and hidebound he might have been, when he looked at them with the gun in his hand, I can't imagine how he didn't turn around, go downstairs, and wait for the soldiers, possibly with the gun still in his hand. Or, given how much time he still had before the press conference, realize how easy it would really be to go on the run.

I presume his wife must have gone first, since she didn't strike me as one to allow him to do as planned without more of a struggle.

Date: 2009-07-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
No, I couldn't get my head around it either. Yet, these things happen in the world every now and then. I can only assume he'd had a total mental breakdown. Which would be understandable given the stress he was put under by his political superiors.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
THanks.

Yeah, that's pretty strong. They'll be happy with that. It certainly brought back a lot of viewers who had given up on Torchwood.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Come friendly bombs and fall on Jack,
then maybe they'll bring Ianto back...

Date: 2009-07-10 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ggreig
Chortle!

Date: 2009-07-10 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
:) Excellent.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
It's the best thing RTD has done since Queer As Folk, by a light year.

I think Gwen will be back as new head of Torchwood in Season 4. It's a bit cliched, but it's a classic approach -- follow the lead character from "green new recruit" to "old hand", over 3 seasons, and then have the old guy leave everything to her.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
If she isn't off taking maternity leave, of course.

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