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Have we ever seen the two Victorian adventurers before? I really don't remember them but I missed a lot of 6th-7th doctor episodes. If not, the maid was called Jenny - could she be the Doctor's daughter after a regeneration?

I think we've answered my question a week or two ago about Rory's swordsmanship - now I really want to write that Highlander crossover, since Jenny and her friend, The Centurion, and Duncan MacLeod must have all been active in Victorian London around the same time.

Later - I'm an idiot, the Centurion was only active in London in the timeline that was destroyed, which can't be the same one the two ladies come from.

later still - Except that the fighters also came from that timeline. Okay, wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff I assume, they can coexist.

Stonkingly good episode anyway - now I want to see what happens to Hitler next time around...

Date: 2011-06-05 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
I suspect that the Silurian thing is just something in the Doctor's back story we aren't going to see.

The forest planet thing is obviously a clue, it was pretty clear that the Doctor didn't remember her at all so they're going to meet in the future. And with a name like Lorna Bucket is there any way she isn't tied in to the River / Pond thing?

Agree on the paradox thing, this is definitely going back to the 20th century or earlier. But without Amy and Rory???

Date: 2011-06-05 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
I get the feeling that Amy and Rorys days are very much numbered now. Because what do we know about the young life of Melody/River? She's in a spacesuit life support unit, she's raised by the Silence in a creepy abandoned house, until she escapes and breaks free.

Something obviously goes very wrong with her childhood, and I don't see where Amy and Rory are in it. So I'm now leaning towards Amy and Rory dying at some point, probably to protect/save Melody.

Date: 2011-06-05 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Or she's a fixed point in time and nobody can intervene. Didn't we see someone - her? - regenerate in an alley in the second episode of this series. Maybe they simply never find her.

Date: 2011-06-05 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Which also makes sense of the bit in Silence of the Library where River takes pains to tell the Doctor that this is a death he cannot regenerate from.

Date: 2011-06-05 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booster17.livejournal.com
To second the probablepossible death of Rory idea, that was pretty much the first time River's ever met Rory at the beginning of that episode.

Date: 2011-06-05 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Yes and no - she and plastic Rory met towards the end of the last season, and she was lurking outside the wedding reception after the reboot.

Date: 2011-06-05 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booster17.livejournal.com
I meant to say I think that's the first time she meets him in her personal timeline.

Date: 2011-06-05 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Maybe - it does seem to trend that way.

Date: 2011-06-07 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
And I think we're supposed to think that the 'good man' River kills is the Doctor, and thus we're supposed to think that's her in the Spacesuit. Which seems... too obvious.

Date: 2011-06-05 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
You think her real name is Waterlily Bouquet? =:o}
(See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_Bucket)

Date: 2011-06-06 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com
Not necessarily, but there's definitely a water / river / pond connection.

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